Comments on: Reassessing Rudy Carpenter: More Jake Plummer or More Ryan Kealy?

By: 3 ASU Football Things: Gatorade Baths, Rudy Carpenter and the State of the Program - by Echo from the Buttes

Sun, 07 Dec 2008 07:30:25 +0000

[...] Rudy Carpenter’s Legacy Took a Hit We expended a lot of ink this week dissecting Rudy Carpenter’s legacy and decided that he had a lot riding on this game. It’d be awfully hard to forget a guy who led [...]

By: Tom

Tom — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:44:22 +0000

I am not sure if today’s game really impact’s Rudy’s legacy. It might due to the fact that it is considered a “big game” from a bowl bid perspective… this would give our younger players another few weeks of practice to build chemistry next year and boost recruiting. So, Rudy has the opportunity to shed the Chris Simms syndrome if he can win this one. Also, I think beating the U of A four consecutive years is a nice achievement and not one the legendary ASU QB’s have ever have accomplished. So, good luck to him today! However, knowing that we have one of the best places to play football in America, the hottest looking girls on campus, good recruiting classes, and generally good coaching, etc., We should be reloading every year like USC, Florida, et al and not constantly rebuilding. Anyway, I have been baffled about how we have one good or great year surrounded by alot of 7-5, 6-6, and 5-7 mediocrity… that’s U of A football (with the lone exception of the Operation Desert “Snore” era) and not ASU football. We once had a tradition of being extremely dominant and playing regularly on New Years’ Day. Personally, I would rather us be discussing the pressure that Rudy has to beat the U of A so we can go to the BCS Championship game as opposed to settling for the Rose Bowl. Oh well… maybe some day we will be doing this when we are talking about Samson or Elway. Go Devils!

By: Rudy Carpenter vs. Willie Tuitama: What do They Say about Us? - by Echo from the Buttes

Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:06:58 +0000

[...] And that’s where the comparisons end. Tuitama is a program Hall of Famer. Carpenter is, in the minds of most ASU fans, not. [...]

By: ZD

ZD — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:23:22 +0000

Didn’t even play is rather harsh, no? Wasn’t Campbell a threat to occasionally block kicks?

By: ScribeDevil01

ScribeDevil01 — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:08:54 +0000

@ Drexel, that’s a fair criticism. There should probably be a level between guy who put up unreal numbers (Andrew Walter) and guy who didn’t really play (Steve Campbell).

We were thinking more about the emotions each guy conjures up. I think most ASU fans remember Walter as someone who put up a lot of stats but never really accomplished anything on a team level. And most remember Campbell very neutrally. He backed up Jake Plummer and then QB’d ASU to a Sun Bowl win after Ryan Kealy got hurt.

So, poorly constructed as it is, it’s more an emotional thing than a skill thing.

By: Drexel

Drexel — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:39:59 +0000

I don’t really get today’s poll. To me, Rudy is blatantly not as good as Jake or Andrew. He is also blatantly better than Kealy and Campbell – WTF? Campbell didn’t even play. He doesn’t have a legacy of any kind to compare to.

Rudy has huge numbers, but he rode the wave of the best passing era in ASU history that was set up Andrew Walter and Dirk Koetter (you know it’s true). Ever since Walter threw for 3800 yards in 10 games in 2002 the Sun Devils recruited higher ranked receivers than at any point in the school’s history. If you truly watch the games, it’s obvious Rudy can’t throw a football half as good as Andrew Walter, and he isn’t nearly the athlete or gamer that Jake Plummer was. By the same token, Rudy is better than probably 75 percent of the quarterbacks in school history….we’ve had a couple great ones, but a long list of forgettably awful ones. Fans were spoiled by Walter and probably even Sam Keller, but I think we’d all agree to have Rudy over Kealy, Griffen Goodman or Jeff Krohn. To use a trendy cliche…he is what he is

By: Welcome Back. « Just The Tip-Off

Welcome Back. « Just The Tip-Off — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:57:53 +0000

[...] favorite Sun Devil blog, Echo from the Buttes, just had some commentary about assessing Rudy Carpenter’s legacy at ASU. I’m [...]

By: azsd

azsd — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:36:25 +0000

CARPenter’s is CRAP! I could sell out some stories I know about him for some pretty good money and probably get him in some pretty good trouble!